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Mill Man 01-28-2009 10:28 PM

.22 Target pistol suggestions.
 
So I'm in the market for a .22 target pistol and I'm wonder what other folks have had success with. I'm looking for a semi-auto in a reasonable price range. The plan is to go down to the range at least once a week put alot of rounds downrange. I've shot a ruger mkII and it was pretty nice but damn is it ugly. I was also looking at the Beretta Neos, its a little "different" but kind of interesting. Let me know what you guys like.

luft97 01-28-2009 10:30 PM

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I like the Ruger Mark III Hunter myself.

http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/images/Products/258L.jpg

TTAZZMAN 01-28-2009 10:53 PM

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for the money and accuracy...you cant beat a SIG TRAILSIDE Hammerli gun...its a true target pistol and normal prices....i have one with the competition grips it will compete with the custom guns.

weighted forend
3lb factory crisp trigger
400-600$ guns
Hammerli construction
dovetail scope rail built in

get the model with the 6" barrel, competition grip and adjustable sights if your going to target shoot this is a true outa the box target gun

http://www.gunshopfinder.com/sig/sigtrailsidecomp.asp

http://tenring.blogspot.com/2006/02/...-vault_19.html

just for fun after i shoot skeet i set up the used shotgun hulls and will shoot the shot gun hulls off hand from 25yards for fun and practice with my trailside

If i were ranking non-custom 22 target pistols (in my personal opinion)
1 sig-trailside
2 browning Buckmark
3 Smith & Wesson Model 41
4 ruger mark 2....i have not shot the Mark 3 so i cant comment accurately

CAVU 01-28-2009 11:14 PM

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I know you are looking for a semi auto but the single six with a magnum cylinder is fun to plink with.

http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/thr...ngle_six_s.jpg

J in AZ 01-28-2009 11:16 PM

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I recently purchased a Browning Buckmark, it is an awesome pistol!!

Lots of fun, accurate, and cheap to feed.

Several years ago I had a Ruger Mark 2 that was a disappointment.

http://www.browning.com/products/cat...og_=B&offset=0

TTAZZMAN 01-28-2009 11:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CAVU (Post 1537288)
I know you are looking for a semi auto but the single six with a magnum cylinder is fun to plink with.

http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/thr...ngle_six_s.jpg

Not a competition gun but my ruger single six hunter model 22/22mag gun is my all around carry while hunting,plinking gun i love it....one of my favorite things is to be able to shoot the following

22mag
22lr
22l
22shorts(very quiet):ok:

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIte...Item=121765374

luft97 01-28-2009 11:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CAVU (Post 1537288)
I know you are looking for a semi auto but the single six with a magnum cylinder is fun to plink with.

I second that. Single Six is also a fun gun to shoot.

CAVU 01-28-2009 11:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by J in AZ (Post 1537290)
I recently purchased a Browning Buckmark, it is an awesome pistol!!

Lots of fun, accurate, and cheap to feed.

Several years ago I had a Ruger Mark 2 that was a disappointment.

Thats much better looking than a Mark II too.

mtnman 01-29-2009 12:10 AM

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I shoot a Ruger 22/45. I like it! Everything is in the same place as a 1911 but it shoots .22s It's one of the Mark series. Well made, I abuse the heck out of my daily shooters (I shoot everyday) and the 22/45 has held up perfectly.

Bill843 01-29-2009 06:18 AM

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The Ruger Mk 2/3 pistols are butt-ugly, but they do shoot well for the price, and you can get a lot of accessories for them. Strictly speaking, they are not target pistols however.

The Hammerli Trailside isn't really a true (ISSF) target pistol,,, and neither is the S&W Model 41, in spite of its $1100 price tag. These are accurized field pistols.
http://www.pilkguns.com/ssp.shtml

Hammerli does make real target pistols--but the Trailside is not one of them:
http://www.rocosystem.com/hammerlicompetitonpistols/

So far, there has only ever been one true target pistol in the "reasonable" price range ($450 or so) sold in the US--and that was the Baikal IZH-35M, which was imported by EAA but is now discontinued. Finding used guns is tough; finding 35M magazines is even tougher.

Next up the price range is probably the Benelli MP-95:
http://www.larrysguns.com/Products/B...MP-95EK22.aspx

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Not to be snobbish or anything--but a "real" target pistol has a fully-adjustable trigger (let-off and reach) and an adjustable-angle grip. The bores are low to minimize flipping during firing. The way they feel when held and shot is FAR better than a field gun.
{ ....On many gun boards, I have seen that some people get really pissy when you tell them the S&W 41 is not a target pistol. In absolute terms it is, it was originally designed for target competition--but in practical terms, it isn't anymore. It was designed in the mid-1950's, and it lacked several significant features even back then. It was never popular for sanctioned shooting, was never adopted by any foreign teams, it was never used to win any international competition, and finally........ by 1960 it was no longer considered competitive, even by the US gun-company-sponsored teams who tried to use it.

If you want a 41 because it gets your nads pumping, then nobody's going to blame you for that--but don't buy one because it's a good target pistol, because it's not, and never was. For the same money now, a Benelli is a far better gun. }

Taking a field gun (like the Ruger), polishing the sear and putting a heavy barrel on it does not get the same result. IF you go to any ISSF-style shoots, you will not see any field guns like Rugers/Trailsides/Mod 41's. You will see entry-level people shooting Baikals and Benellis.

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One last bit of advice I will stick in here:
If you go looking for a used "real" target pistol and decide you want a rapid-fire (they use 5-shot magazines),,,, make sure you are buying a 22LR-caliber gun, and not an earlier 22short-caliber gun.

For years and years, the ISSF sanctioned competition of "rapid-fire pistol" only allowed 22short as the caliber, and that's what all the best pistols came in.

The ISSF changed the rapid-fire pistol caliber from 22short to 22LR a couple years back, because there was no ammo company research going into 22short target ammo anymore. The 22short guns generally cannot be converted to fire 22LR at all, and there are a lot of 22short pistols out there looking for buyers.

The guns work as well as they ever did--but it's very likely that target-grade 22short ammo will soon disappear, if it has not already. The only reason that it was still produced was for ISSF shooting, and that's gone now.


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Andy9999 01-29-2009 06:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by luft97 (Post 1537224)
I like the Ruger Mark III Hunter myself.

http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/images/Products/258L.jpg

I second that ,have it and love it

CyberGold 01-29-2009 07:30 AM

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It's really about what YOU like. If you think the Ruger is ugly then buy something else. As long as the gun is reliable, mags and parts are available and it is accurate in your hands, then looks are secondary.
I like the Mk II Govt Target for everyday use - a lot - but the most accurate with the most variety of ammo types is my old Colt Woodsman Target. It beats my S&W Model 41 for accuracy.

ruprick 01-29-2009 08:14 AM

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I've been shooting pistol in competition of the past 15 years. I now shoot at "Expert Classification" in both NRA Conventional (bullseye) and NRA International/ISSF type shooting. So....i have a lot of target pistol experience.

Bill843 above is correct in everything he said.....

In my experience.....I would suggest everyone start out on a Ruger as they by far have the most aftermarket options. When I got started Ruger had a 6 7/8 slab sided "target" model......I prefer this over 5.5" bull barrel as it has a better feel to me....and i like the longer sight radius for precision shooting. I bought one and did my own trigger job....and added Volquartsen https://www.volquartsen.com/ grips. There are aftermarket triggers as well....

Do not buy any of the pistols with the hunter thye sights and fiber oiptic....they are not precision enough for target work.

The Ruger will give you the best gun for the money. This is the lowest cost reasonable target pistol you can get.

The following pistols are in the same class as the Ruger on price but less aftermarket parts: Browning Buchmark ....I think High Standard got back into production....do not know if this is still the case.

Again....please buy the Ruger...you will make a big mistake otherwise.....

Next up the price list is the S&W Model 41......this is a $1000+ gun....beautiful and very nice.

After that you get into the European target pistols and are looking at $1500 - $2500....my all time favorite in this class is the Walther GSP...I feel it is the best target pistol in the world...

You can also go with a high end 22 conversion for a 1911 45ACP pistol....these cost about $400. I'll find you some links to these if you want to go this way....

Stick with it every week and read one single book.....I'll post a link later.....and concentrate when you train...and in about 3 to 6 months of shooting once per week...you will be an outstanding pistol shot. Train harder and get to the range 2-3 times a week...and you can become a world champion....perhaps.....

crazychicken 01-29-2009 08:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ruprick (Post 1537705)
I've been shooting pistol in competition of the past 15 years. I now shoot at "Expert Classification" in both NRA Conventional (bullseye) and NRA International/ISSF type shooting. So....i have a lot of target pistol experience.

snip/snip

Wow--
You have done some serious work to get to that level.

Congrats of the highest order!!!!!!!!!!

CC

chad 01-29-2009 08:27 AM

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i really love my beretta u22 neos.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/medi..._neos_6_bl.jpg

SWRichmond 01-29-2009 09:04 AM

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Choose carefully, depending on the grip angle of your main defensive gun. If you choose something different you will have a less-than-ideal experience, as the difference will totally screw you up.

http://www.highstandard.com/guns.html

BikerJon 01-29-2009 09:09 AM

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I also love my NEOS.

I just added a red dot scope to it last week and hope to get the range this week to try it out.

I have yet to find an ammo that doesn't work well in this gun. It seems to shoot anything that says .22lr on the box.

Without the scope my wife was playing "connect the dots" from 25ft at the range the other day. This was her first time shooting in 6 years.

So yeah, I like mine and it's more accurate that I am for now.

Jon

chad 01-29-2009 09:13 AM

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i've had that same expreience. it's never jammed. ever. and it's accurate as hell with iron sights. if they ever release the carbine kit, i'm getting it as well.

ruprick 01-29-2009 10:31 AM

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Anyone that wants to become a top notch pistol shot.....must get the following book - "The Pistol Shooters Treasury" by Gil Hebard.

All the details are in the link to a previous GIM post.....my post #22 within that link.

http://goldismoney.info/forums/showt...rd#post1456656

This book and lots of practice....you can become as good as you want....it is just a matter of how much effort you want to expend.


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